Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/22/2002 09:06 AM Senate FIN

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     SENATE BILL NO. 292                                                                                                        
     "An Act making supplemental and other appropriations; amending                                                             
     appropriations; making appropriations to capitalize funds; and                                                             
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the  second hearing for these  bills in the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(1)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Finance                                                                                                                    
     Contractual costs for maintenance of the State payroll system                                                              
     (AKPAY)                                                                                                                    
     $150,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SPENCER,   Director,  Division   of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of Administration  stated this request is a high priority                                                            
item for the Department  as the state's "antiquated"  payroll system                                                            
is  requiring  constant maintenance  and  is  generating  additional                                                            
operating  expense. He  continued  that, in addition,  the  system's                                                            
software  is  being  phased  out,  resulting  in the  need  for  the                                                            
Department  to train programmers to  convert existing data  to a new                                                            
database management system.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if a request  for training had been  included                                                            
in the FY 02 budget.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  affirmed  it had  been  requested,  but had  not  been                                                            
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   asked  why  the  Department  did  not   re-adjust                                                            
priorities to accommodate this need.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer stated  adjustments  were  made; however,  the  current                                                            
staff time  is absorbed in repairing  the existing software  to keep                                                            
it functioning.  He  stated the  Department currently  is  minimally                                                            
staffed and  "are in a  day-to-day keep the  system going mode."  He                                                            
noted that during  the summer, the Department had  a staff shortage;                                                            
however currently  there is  a full programming  staff. He  stressed                                                            
that  being fully  staffed now  allows time  for people  to get  the                                                            
additional  training necessary  for the upcoming  conversion  to new                                                            
software.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  the  number of  press relation's  staff  the                                                            
Department employs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ALISON ELGEE, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Administration,                                                                
stated the Department has no press officers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   asked  if  the  Governor's  office   handles  the                                                            
Department's press releases.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms Elgee responded  the Department uses the Governor's  Office staff                                                            
for assistance with press releases.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  if  the Department  could  not have  shifted                                                            
"other less priority" resources toward these programming needs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  responded, "this  is a situation  where the  Department                                                            
has a need  and knows the  cost of the need  and is bringing  it" to                                                            
the Committee. He stated,  "obviously, if you don't feel it rises to                                                            
a priority level, we will  have to see if we can reassign some folks                                                            
or create the savings somewhere else."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  if the  Department has  determined this  was                                                            
such a  priority as  to "feel it's  a need that  would cause  you to                                                            
reassign things" to get it done.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer affirmed  that it is of such a need, and  the Department                                                            
would have to start reassigning  people if this supplemental request                                                            
is not  granted. He warned  that other  Department responsibilities                                                             
would  not be  addressed.  He stressed  that the  Department  "would                                                            
rather not have to stop doing other things."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked what activities  the Department would  forego                                                            
if it shifted priorities to meet this need.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  responded that  the Department  has not created  a list                                                            
yet, as they have been waiting for the outcome of this request.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley stated  the Committee had requested a prioritization                                                            
list from the  commissioner. He surmised  the list should  have been                                                            
created by now.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer replied  that a list was created prioritizing  items for                                                            
the FY 03 operating  budget, but not for the supplemental  requests.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  stated the  Department's  correspondence  did  not                                                            
appear  to prioritize  duties  or specify  which  programs could  be                                                            
eliminated  if  resources  needed to  be  shifted to  support  other                                                            
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  stated  the Department's  response  qualified that  the                                                            
duties  the  Department   performs  are  set  in  statute   and  the                                                            
Department is obligated to fulfill them.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   countered  that  the  Governor  could   introduce                                                            
legislation to amend statutes to address this concern.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  asked the Committee to  communicate this suggestion  to                                                            
the Governor's Office.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward  confirmed that  the request  sent to the Department's                                                             
Commissioner specifically  requested prioritization  of programs. He                                                            
continued  that   knowing  exact  monetary  needs   of  the  various                                                            
departments' and a list  of departments' priorities would assist the                                                            
legislature in  determining how to address the state's  needs in the                                                            
FY 03 budget.  He clarified that the intent of the  letter was for a                                                            
prioritization list.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   voiced  appreciation   for   the  clarification.   He                                                            
reiterated  the need  for the Department  to  comply with  statutory                                                            
mandates,  and stated that  one mandate involves  the state  payroll                                                            
system and  "keeping the  employees paid."  He continued that  these                                                            
statutes  have been  "on  the books  for some  time,"  and that  the                                                            
Department  has  not  received  a  request  to  consider   statutory                                                            
changes.  He stressed  that the  Department's  roll in prioritizing                                                             
programs  is presented according  to current  statute mandates,  and                                                            
that statutory  changes suggested  now would not affect the  current                                                            
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward  expressed   that  schools  and  other   entities  are                                                            
experiencing  funding  shortfalls  and he  stated  that "government                                                             
needs to  be reduced some  amount, and everybody  needs to  share in                                                            
this  a little  bit." He  requested the  Department  to examine  its                                                            
programs  "to determine  where  cuts can  be made."  He stated  this                                                            
information  in  essential  in  determining  the  best way  for  the                                                            
Legislature to approach  downsizing the budget without doing "across                                                            
the board cuts." He stated  that the Committee receives requests for                                                            
more money; however,  they also need to see what programs  can "live                                                            
with less." He  stressed he has not seen any "we can  live with less                                                            
stuff."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  stated the Committee  understands the position  the                                                            
Department  is in regarding statutory  mandates, and commented  that                                                            
he had  requested  suggestions for  statutory law  changes from  the                                                            
Department's Commissioner;  however, the Commissioner did not supply                                                            
any suggestions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  requested  the  Department  to  examine  any  non-                                                            
statutory  duties and  to determine  the lowest  priority  statutory                                                            
duties that could be statutorily  eliminated or altered to cause the                                                            
"least amount  of impact upon the  services that the state  delivers                                                            
to the people of the state."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  reminded Committee  members  that  in the  1990's,                                                            
Alaska was  the only state in the  nation to reduce its budget,  and                                                            
now other states  are evaluating cutting their budgets.  He stressed                                                            
the need  for Alaska  to  develop a  long-term plan  to balance  the                                                            
budget  in order  to  have "a  sustainable  budget and  provide  the                                                            
services that  the people want." He  stressed that minor  cuts "here                                                            
and  there" would  not  accomplish  this;  and questioned  what  the                                                            
Legislature  is doing  to  achieve the  goal of  sustainability.  He                                                            
stated his  election district has  felt the impacts of cutbacks  and                                                            
is ready to address whatever  is needed to secure a workable budget.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward agreed with  Senator Hoffman, and said that while taxes                                                            
may be necessary to address  the revenue shortfall, "government as a                                                            
whole is  on the table."  He insisted that  the state's departments                                                             
"have  an  obligation  to  come  in  with  at  least  a  one  dollar                                                            
reduction"  from the  previous  year; however  "what we  have is  an                                                            
Administration saying we  need this much more because this is really                                                            
an important thing."   He continued "of course it  is, but where are                                                            
you going to  take it from… from government."  He stated,  "everyone                                                            
has to share in  this, that the whole burden can't  be placed on the                                                            
people to keep government  going. Let's just do the services that we                                                            
need."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked  Senator  Ward  why,  if  he  is  supporting                                                            
spending  "even   one  dollar  less,"  is  he  supporting   spending                                                            
additional money for tourism and other items.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward voiced  support for Senator Hoffman's  remarks and said                                                            
the  Administration   must  set  the   priorities  and  inform   the                                                            
Legislature  if spending money on  such things in the budget  as the                                                            
Arctic Winter  Games, public radio, and the Power  Cost Equalization                                                            
program are as  important as keeping schools functioning.  He stated                                                            
that  everybody   has  to   share  in  this   reduction  and   start                                                            
prioritizing within  the Departments. He noted he  had not voted for                                                            
legislation appropriating  funds to the tourism industry,  and there                                                            
are several other  appropriations he would not support;  however, he                                                            
would  prefer the  Departments  to prioritize  programs  and  reduce                                                            
expenditures.  He stated the  savings could  then be reallocated  to                                                            
programs that "really need the money."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  reiterated,  "prioritization  is  more  than  just                                                            
prioritizing new spending,  its prioritizing spending you don't have                                                            
to do anymore  to substitute and make room for the  new spending. It                                                            
runs both ways  and all we see is  one way in this Administration."                                                             
He  stated   this   is  "what   concerns"  and   "disappoints"   the                                                            
Legislature. He  stated the Legislature is continuously  told by the                                                            
Departments that "it is  not our job to prioritize, it's not our job                                                            
to  make  choices."  He stated  it  is  hard for  the  Committee  to                                                            
determine  whether the testifiers  are following  instructions  they                                                            
received from the Administration  "to put the Republican legislature                                                            
in a  box, don't help  us solve  the fiscal crisis,  or whether  you                                                            
really  don't  know  the  answer.  I  don't  know  whether  you  are                                                            
following  instructions  or  whether you  are  doing your  job."  He                                                            
commented,  "there is a difference  between the two, for  the people                                                            
of Alaska."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  stressed the  purpose of this  meeting is not  to cut                                                            
the budget,  rather to address supplemental  requests that  increase                                                            
the  budget. He  commented  that  supplementals  are the  result  of                                                            
changing  conditions,   and  he  is   interested  in  knowing   what                                                            
conditions  have changed or if the  cause is unplanned expenditures                                                             
or incorrect planning.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(2)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     General Relief                                                                                                             
     Shortfunding for projected caseload.                                                                                       
     $273,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee   explained  this  item   addresses  caseload   increases                                                            
involving  the "placement  of vulnerable adults  in assisted  living                                                            
where protected  services  are needed because  the individual  is at                                                            
risk." She  stated this funding was  proposed but not funded  in the                                                            
FY 02 budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked what efforts  were made by the Department  to                                                            
minimize the need for this supplemental request.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee responded  that  the  Department  has been  undergoing  a                                                            
regulation  process  that  will  assist  the  Department  to  better                                                            
control  the program.  She  informed  the  Committee that  when  the                                                            
revised regulations  were first introduced,  there was a  great deal                                                            
of  confusion   amongst   the  providers.   She  stated  there   was                                                            
disagreement as to whether  the Department correctly interpreted the                                                            
Legislative intent  of the program, and the Department  was asked by                                                            
the  Legislature  to  postpone  the  adoption   of  the replacement                                                             
regulations  until the Legislature  had an opportunity to  re-review                                                            
the  regulations.  She continued  that,  at  the present  time,  the                                                            
regulations  are  under review  by  the Department  of  Law with  an                                                            
expected adoption date of July 2002.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  the amount  of money  these regulations  are                                                            
projected to save on an annual basis.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded the  Department would meet the parameters of the                                                            
prepared  fiscal  note  that was  submitted  with  SB 73  when  that                                                            
legislation was passed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  what efforts  have been  made to offset  the                                                            
increase of funding for this program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded this  is a difficult situation as the Department                                                            
has  been working  through  "the confusion  that  has been  created"                                                            
amongst the provider community  as well as amongst Legislators about                                                            
the intent  of  SB 73;  specifically the  setting  of very  specific                                                            
daily rates that the Department  pays assisted living facilities for                                                            
placement of an  adult in the facility. She detailed  the historical                                                            
payment  plan and  the  changes imposed  by  SB 73  relating to  the                                                            
charges for room, board  and services. She stated that by not having                                                            
the regulations  in  place, the Department  has  had to negotiate  a                                                            
"payment  mechanism"  with  each provider.  She  elaborated  on  the                                                            
complications involved  if the patient also needs assistance through                                                            
the Medicaid  waiver.  She stated  the confusion,  combined with  an                                                            
increase  in  the number  of  individuals  needing  assistance,  has                                                            
resulted  in this  supplemental request.  She stated  that once  the                                                            
regulations  are in  place, the  Department  would be  able to  work                                                            
within the guidelines of the fiscal note.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green asked  what savings  would occur  if the regulations                                                             
were set in place now instead of July.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee  responded  the regulations  are  in final  review at  the                                                            
Department  of Law  and are  not anticipated  to be  in place  until                                                            
July; however, at that  time, the Department's FY 03 budget proposal                                                            
would be in place and would be adhered to.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if the Department is confident  of the timing                                                            
on the implementation  of the regulations  as this could  affect the                                                            
FY 03 budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee affirmed the regulations would be in place by July 1                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked the  Department for other suggestions to improve                                                            
this situation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee  responded the  Department has  been working closely  with                                                            
the Department  of Health and Social Services due  to the overlap in                                                            
departments resulting from  the Medicaid waiver for the elderly. She                                                            
suggested  that  changing  the  Medicaid  waiver  reimbursement  for                                                            
assisted  living to  allow for  a community  based  system would  be                                                            
beneficial. She  explained that the current "Medicaid  reimbursement                                                            
system is based on an old  adult foster care rate structure that was                                                            
in place  in the  early 1990's"  and reimburses  homes based  on the                                                            
size of  the home,  which does  not reflect  the need  level of  the                                                            
individual.  She  noted  that  many of  the  small  homes  currently                                                            
receive a small  reimbursement amount although they  care for people                                                            
with very high  needs. She continued, "we need to  get this fixed so                                                            
that the assisted  living community gets adequately  compensated for                                                            
the services  they are  delivering." She  stated the Department  "is                                                            
exploring  with  Department   of Health   and  Social  Services  the                                                            
opportunity  to refinance, through  the Medicaid program,  a portion                                                            
of what  is  presently paid"  to individuals  through  Adult  Public                                                            
Assistance.  She stated if this endeavor  were successful,  it would                                                            
allow the Department  to use funds  that are presently in  the Adult                                                            
Public Assistance  Program  to "leverage federal  funds through  the                                                            
Medicaid program and shift  more costs to the Medicaid program where                                                            
we are sharing those expenses with the federal government."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked if  classifying some of these costs as emergency                                                            
procedures would be beneficial  and would allow some of the costs to                                                            
be  shifted to  federal  Medicaid;  thereby  allowing  the state  to                                                            
leverage state funds.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee   responded   that,  "emergency   regulations  are   very                                                            
specifically defined as to what constitutes an emergency."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  inquired if this could  be addressed through  current                                                            
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee  stated Medicaid  regulations  are  administered  by  the                                                            
Department  of  Health and  Social  Services,  and not  through  the                                                            
Department of Administration;  therefore discussions need to involve                                                            
that Department.  She assured  the Committee  the interpretation  of                                                            
the regulation  "is a very high priority"  and the departments  have                                                            
"agreed to try to expedite this regulation result."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  requested the Committee to encourage  "the expedition                                                            
of  these revised  regulations  that  would  increase  funding"  and                                                            
leverage  "state  dollars  to  impact  payment  for  the  people  in                                                            
assisted living homes."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(3)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Leasing                                                                                                                    
     Shortfunding for the amount required to pay leases with the                                                                
     private sector                                                                                                             
     $1,300,000 general funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  commented the original  FY 02 request was short-funded                                                             
$1.9 million,  and based  on a  recent reassessment  of needs,  this                                                            
amount is  needed to pay  state long-term  leases. He elaborated  on                                                            
the types and  lengths of leases the state currently  holds with the                                                            
private  sector.  He stressed  that  the Department  has  economized                                                            
where it could; however,  as leases expire, there are not many lower                                                            
cost leases  options. He  qualified, however,  that this request  is                                                            
significantly lower than the Department projected.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee cited the Department's  success in reducing costs over the                                                            
years,  and that  even  with this  request  factored  in, the  total                                                            
general  fund expense  for  the leasing  program  is  less than  the                                                            
amount required in FY 01.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  inquired about  the lease  status of the state-owned                                                             
Atlin Building.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee  explained  that the  Atlin Building  is  included in  the                                                            
Public Building  Fund and the occupants of the building  pay rent to                                                            
that fund. She stated those  monies are used for the maintenance and                                                            
operation  of that facility.  She continued  Alaska Housing  Finance                                                            
Corporation (AHFC) carries  the debt service for the Atlin Building.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman asked  what percent  of the building  is occupied  by                                                            
state entities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded  that approximately  80 percent of the  building                                                            
is occupied  by state  entities, and  the few  private tenants  have                                                            
continuing  leases  that  were  in  effect  when  the  building  was                                                            
acquired.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer stated that  tenants are aggressively sought for the few                                                            
vacancies that are in the Atlin Building.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley stated  the  public has  commented  that the  state                                                            
lease costs  are higher than what  the private sector would  charge.                                                            
He restated the  Committee's directive to the Department  to cut its                                                            
lease costs.  He stated that  the Department  has not reduced  their                                                            
costs as reflected by this supplemental request.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee responded that  the Department has reduced its lease costs                                                            
by  $600,000  from  FY  02  projections.   She  stated  leasing  has                                                            
historically been under-funded  intentionally because so much of the                                                            
proposed  budget  is  based  on projections.    She  continued  this                                                            
process has  worked very  effectively, and  "over the course  of the                                                            
past ten  years,"  the supplemental  requests have  been lower  than                                                            
their   corresponding   year's  projections,   thus   "avoiding   an                                                            
unnecessary appropriation  of funds." She noted this "keeps pressure                                                            
on the Department to reduce these costs."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(4)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Leasing                                                                                                                    
     FY 02 appropriation for the Anchorage Jail lease is short                                                                  
     $4,784.38                                                                                                                  
     $4,800general funds                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer stated  this request is to correct a technical  error in                                                            
the debt payment  schedule that was  not appropriately reflected  in                                                            
the FY 02 appropriation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(5)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                  
     Shortfunding of current year exacerbated by increased costs.                                                               
     $1,865,000 general funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   stated  this   is  another   agency  that  has   been                                                            
historically  under-funded.   He  explained  the  caseload  of  this                                                            
program continues  to increase primarily as a result  of contractual                                                            
costs of  private attorneys  representing  the individuals  that the                                                            
Office  Of  Public  Advocacy  (OPA)  is  assigned  and  required  to                                                            
represent.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley inquired  what percentage  of this  request is  the                                                            
result of criminal defense work.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  could not provide that  specific information;  however,                                                            
he stated  the estimate is  based on the  current caseload,  and its                                                            
comparison  to prior years. He stated  there are a lot of  variables                                                            
that affect the Office.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley asked if  there is any intent language in the budget                                                            
that  supports   the  Department's   position   that  the   OPA  was                                                            
intentionally under-funded, and that a supplemental is expected.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded there is no such supportive language.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  inquired if a Senate Finance Co-Chair  had inferred                                                            
this in any conversation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded  there was no specific conversation  regarding                                                            
this matter.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Donley  asked   why  the  Department   concluded   that  a                                                            
supplemental request was appropriate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  stated that the conclusion  was reached when  no change                                                            
was made in the  program, after a history of approximately  thirteen                                                            
years of being under-funded.  He stressed it is difficult to predict                                                            
the costs of  this program; however,  he stated, the Department  has                                                            
been "pretty accurate in the last couple of years."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  if  there are  any statutory  or  structural                                                            
organizational  changes that can be addressed to reduce  the cost of                                                            
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer replied not at this time.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  inquired as to why  the caseloads are so  expensive                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  responded that some of  the expense is generated  by an                                                            
effort to reduce the backlog of children's cases.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  stated the  budget  was increased  in  FY 02,  and                                                            
inquired  if the "high degree"  of budgetary  increases the  OPA has                                                            
been receiving  would address this  backlog or whether the  caseload                                                            
is increasing and driving the budgetary growth.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer stated the  backlog of cases is primarily child-in-need-                                                            
of-aid  cases and  although  the backlog  of  these  cases has  been                                                            
reduced, the program continues to grow.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if this growth  is due to "statutory  changes                                                            
that  are  increasing  the  protection  for  children,  because  the                                                            
government  is more  aggressive about  reaching  out and  protecting                                                            
children,  or is that  there are more  children in  need of  aid for                                                            
some social reason."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded  "all of the above." He continued  there is no                                                            
one single factor, and  that a larger population also contributes to                                                            
the growth.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated  that changes at  the state and federal  level have                                                            
mandated  "tighter timeframes  in terms of  permanency planning  for                                                            
children."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  inquired if  the increase  in child in need  of aid                                                            
cases can be attributed to any particular area of the state.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee responded  the  Department would  provide  a breakout  of                                                            
caseloads to the Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(6)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Public Defender                                                                                                            
     Shortfunding of current year need and fiscal notes                                                                         
     $600,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BARABARA  BRINK, Director,  Public  Defender Agency,  Department  of                                                            
Administration,  testified  via teleconference  from  Anchorage  and                                                            
explained  this  supplemental  request  is  the  result  of  reduced                                                            
funding  and  higher  costs  due  to  increases   in  caseloads  and                                                            
workloads. She  explained that half of the request  is the result of                                                            
reductions  in  the  Agency's  Smart  Start  program  FY  02  budget                                                            
request. She detailed that  the under-funding essentially eliminated                                                            
two  attorneys  in  the OPA;  however  the  caseloads  continued  to                                                            
increase  due to the responsibilities  of  the Smart Start  Program.                                                            
She continued  that  the Agency  is obligated  to investigate  every                                                            
report of child neglect  and harm.  She stated she made the decision                                                            
to keep the two  attorneys to continue to represent  children within                                                            
the strident  timelines  required  by statute.  She mentioned  these                                                            
attorneys  also  work  on  Balloon  Project   cases,  another  child                                                            
placement program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink informed  the Committee  that a portion of the  request is                                                            
for funds for  legal support and attorney reclassification  She said                                                            
the reclassification was necessary to retain qualified staff.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink  summarized  the balance  of the request  as covering  the                                                            
"accumulative  affect of  not being funded  sufficiently to  handle"                                                            
the increasing caseloads the Court appoints to the Agency.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink stated  the Department has  taken steps to avoid  the need                                                            
for supplemental  funding including:  laying off an investigator  in                                                            
the   Kodiak   office;  attorneys   working   long   hours   without                                                            
compensation; and the elimination of on-call staffers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Ms. Brink continued  that the Agency  has also reduced its  training                                                            
budget,  hired   at  lower  ranges,   and  reduced  the   amount  of                                                            
computerized legal  research. She stated that the  Agency's caseload                                                            
exceeds maximum  recommended  levels, and she  feels the Agency  has                                                            
done everything  it can to  stay within its  budget. She stated  the                                                            
Department  is trying to  recruit a Jesuit  volunteer from  Catholic                                                            
Social  Services to  work for  the Agency  in the  Bethel office  as                                                            
funding  was  not  sufficient   within  the  Agency  to  staff  this                                                            
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink stated  the Agency's responsibility is to  its clients and                                                            
to the Court.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(a)(7)                                                                                                            
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Public Defender                                                                                                            
     Mental Health Court attorney approved by the Mental Health                                                                 
     Trust                                                                                                                      
     $73,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brink   stated  the  Alaska   Mental  Health  Trust   Authority                                                            
recommends  the Agency receive  these funds  to assist its  mentally                                                            
ill population  caseloads.  She stated  this money  would allow  the                                                            
Agency to devote one full-time attorney to handle this work.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   stated  a  recent  audit  [copy  not   available]                                                            
questions decisions  that were made, and the number  of appeals that                                                            
were made  by the  Office of Public  Defenders,  and asked what  the                                                            
Agency has done to address these concerns.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink  did  not recall  these concerns  addressed  in the  audit                                                            
report.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley stated the  comments were  included as quotes  from                                                            
individuals interviewed about the operations of the Agency.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brink  stated that  one  individual  made  such comments  in  a                                                            
statewide survey  of prosecutors,  members of the Court System,  and                                                            
the Departments  of Law and Corrections.  She clarified this  survey                                                            
was no included in the Audit report.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink stressed  that the Agency  monitors and conducts  meetings                                                            
to scrutinize what issues  the Agency might appeal. She informed the                                                            
Committee that  a criminal defendant  has a constitutional  right to                                                            
appeal, and the Agency has to abide by his or her decision.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if the Agency  could decide against  making a                                                            
"frivolous  appeal or create some  new law that doesn't really  make                                                            
sense just because some defendant wishes."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brink  responded  that was correct,  and she  stressed that  the                                                            
Agency has never presented  a frivolous appeal. She stated, however,                                                            
the Agency  does have a duty to provide  a defendant with  an appeal                                                            
if the defendant wishes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1(b) & (c)                                                                                                         
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Senior Services                                                                                                            
     Senior Services Employment Program hold harmless - Federal                                                                 
     regulations not promulgated so funds not needed                                                                            
     ($120,000)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated that in  the year 2001, the Department was notified                                                            
of federal changes  that affected how much the Department  could pay                                                            
seniors in programs administered  under the Commission on Aging. She                                                            
stated  the Legislature  added  money  to the  program  in order  to                                                            
address  the  federal   change;  however  federal  regulations   are                                                            
forthcoming and  the need for this allocation is not  necessary this                                                            
fiscal year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19                                                                                                                 
     Miscellaneous Claims                                                                                                       
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Miscellaneous Claims: -0-. Stale-dated warrants: $23,744.07                                                                
     $23,700 general funds                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  stated this  request would pay  invoices from  previous                                                            
fiscal years.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2(a)                                                                                                               
     Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                           
     Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation                                                                                   
     Replace $311.9 of unrealized FY 02 Alaska Science & Technology                                                             
     Foundation Investment Earnings with AADC receipts                                                                          
     $ 0 fund request                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2(a)                                                                                                               
     Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                           
     Alaska    Aerospace    Development    Corporation    Facilities                                                            
     Maintenance                                                                                                                
     Replace $69.2 of unrealized Alaska Science & Technology                                                                    
      Foundation FY 02 Investment Earnings with AADC receipts                                                                   
     $ 0 request                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TOM  LAWSON,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of Community  and Economic Development, stated the Alaska                                                            
Aerospace  Development  Corporation   (AADC)  normally  receives  an                                                            
annual  appropriation   from  the  Alaska  Science  and   Technology                                                            
Foundation  (ASTF). He furthered  this request  is a funding  source                                                            
change  necessary  because  of  a poor  performance  of  the  (ASTF)                                                            
endowment  the past year.  He noted that  this request would  change                                                            
the funding source to cover the expected shortfall.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  asked for clarification  that general funds  would be                                                            
used to fund this shortfall.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  stated  the  Governor,  not  the  Legislature,  is                                                            
proposing to use general funds to cover this request.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  clarified  that this  request does  not involve  general                                                            
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked  which  funds would  be used  to replace  the                                                            
endowment funds.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  responded that Aerospace  Corporate receipts,  which are                                                            
earnings  generated from  launches at  the site,  would replace  the                                                            
endowment funds.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  clarified that corporate receipts  would be used to                                                            
fund the shortfall.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley asked if  there are any  projections regarding  the                                                            
Endowment's performance in FY 03.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lawson informed  the  Committee  that at  a recent  ASTF  Board                                                            
Meeting, Robert  Storer, Executive Director of the  Alaska Permanent                                                            
Fund Corporation  and managers of the ASTF Endowment,  estimated the                                                            
earnings  of the  fund would  be approximately  2.9  percent of  the                                                            
principal;  therefore  the  earnings  would  be  approximately  $2.9                                                            
million for FY 02.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley stated  it is difficult  to project  the amount  of                                                            
receipts.   He  inquired   as  to  how  the   Department  would   be                                                            
compensating  for  the  market   downturn  and  its  affect  on  the                                                            
Endowment fund.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  responded the  Department is  addressing each  endowment                                                            
earnings  situation on a  one-by-one basis.  He specified that  AADC                                                            
has  received  partial  funding  from ASTF  for  several  years.  He                                                            
continued that  in the Governor's  FY 03 Budget Request these  funds                                                            
are not included.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley clarified  that the AADC funding specified in the FY                                                            
03 budget consists entirely of corporate receipt funds.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  responded yes,  with additional  CIP funds from  federal                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked  for  a  projection  of  corporate  receipts                                                            
generated by launches.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson cited three launches are scheduled for FY 03.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley inquired  as to what other state programs would have                                                            
a shortfall due to loss of ASTF endowment funding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  stated  that the  University  would be  affected by  the                                                            
shortfall in ASFT endowment fund earnings.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2(c)                                                                                                               
     Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                           
     Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation Facilities                                                                        
     Grant from the US Department of Defense for Kodiak Launch                                                                  
      Computer Improvements - Infrastructure Safety Upgrades,                                                                   
     Range Safety System, and Road Improvements                                                                                 
     $20,000,000 federal funds                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson stated this  capital project is funded by a federal grant                                                            
to provide  safety  upgrades and  improvements to  the facility.  He                                                            
said the funds are expected to be available in May 2002.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Department of Corrections                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3(a)                                                                                                               
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Facility - Capital Improvement Unit                                                                                        
     The  $160.5 general fund  fiscal note  funding Ch.32,  SLA 2001                                                            
     (HB  149 Private  Prison in Kenai)  is no  longer needed  since                                                            
     Kenai  voters rejected the proposal.  Funds are reappropriated                                                             
     to inmate Health Care.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DWAYNE  PEEPLES,  Director,  Division  of Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of Corrections,  stated this appropriation request is the                                                            
result  of not  building  a  private prison  in  the Kenai  area  as                                                            
approval  of the project did  not pass a vote  of the people  in the                                                            
affected  area. He stated  these funds were  never expended  and are                                                            
now available for reappropriation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples  stated this request,  if granted, would transfer  these                                                            
general funds  to address the short-funding  in inmate health  care.                                                            
He explained that  this program has historically been  short-funded,                                                            
and he  informed the Committee  that the FY  01 budget shortfall  of                                                            
$1.7  million  was  subsidized  by utilizing  retirement   incentive                                                            
program  (RIP)  savings  and  other  funds  in  the  Department.  He                                                            
continued  that due to  "population growth  in the Department",  and                                                            
the  exhaustion   of  RIP  savings,   the  Department  predicts   an                                                            
approximate $2 million shortfall this year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peeples  informed  the  Committee  "the Department  is  in  the                                                            
process  of  modernizing  its  medical  services,  including  closer                                                            
utilization  review, developing  an electronic  medical information                                                             
system, renegotiating  services contracts,  reevaluating  the health                                                            
services  it is providing  for its inmates,  distinguishing  between                                                            
sentenced population and un-sentenced population."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked for "the distinction"  between sentenced  and                                                            
un-sentenced population.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples  responded that  the Department  is responsible  for the                                                            
entire  inmate population,  and has  been providing  uniform  health                                                            
services  to all inmates  regardless of their  status. He  explained                                                            
that the Department is  planning to "emulate" a plan currently being                                                            
used in Oregon and Washington,  identifying specific health services                                                            
based  on incarceration  time.  He  continued  that the  plan  would                                                            
specify  chronic and preventive  health care  services coverage  for                                                            
sentenced  inmates, as  well as the  care to be  provided to  an un-                                                            
sentenced inmate based on the length of their incarceration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Donley clarified  that  if an inmate  is  incarcerated for  a                                                            
short amount  of time, the  state's legal  obligation to address  an                                                            
individual's long-term health care issues would be reduced.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3(b)                                                                                                               
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Inmate Health Care                                                                                                         
     Shortfunding  in  health care  costs resulting  from  continued                                                            
     inflation  of pharmacy costs,  staff salaries (includes  $676.0                                                            
     for   health  care   worker/nurses  salary   costs),   contract                                                            
     physician costs and hospital care.                                                                                         
     $1,839,500 general funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples informed  the Committee that the Department  is exerting                                                            
"tighter  control on a pharmacy  formulary"  of what drugs  would or                                                            
would not  be issued. He  stated that the  acceleration in  pharmacy                                                            
costs in FY 01  compared to FY 00 reflects an increase  of $400,000,                                                            
with expectations  of the same amount of increase  when comparing FY                                                            
02 to  FY 01. Mr.  Peeples stated  new control  measures include:  a                                                            
closer  review   of  contract  services;   staffing  patterns;   and                                                            
switching  to keep-on-person  drugs. He stated  the acceleration  of                                                            
costs should be  reduced in FY 03 as a result of the  implementation                                                            
of these measures.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if the Department could explain  what was the                                                            
"driver' of the increase in pharmaceutical costs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples  responded there was not  a single factor. He  continued                                                            
that  there would  always  be a  certain  number of  very  expensive                                                            
cases,  however,   the  increasing  costs  of  pharmaceuticals   and                                                            
inflation  drive the  expense. He  informed the  Committee that  the                                                            
Department projects a seven  to nine percent rate of inflation in FY                                                            
01, and double-digit inflation figures in FY 02.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  inquired  if  the  Department  anticipates   costs                                                            
continuing in this manner.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples  responded these  costs would  continue to increase.  He                                                            
furthered that a portion  of this supplemental request is the result                                                            
of the Department experiencing  medical cost under-funding in FY 00,                                                            
and this combined  with a statewide  adjustment in nursing  salaries                                                            
in FY  01, has resulted  in approximately  half  of this $2  million                                                            
request  being  attributed   to "legacies   we  have  been  carrying                                                            
forward."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  stated  that the  state's  obligation  to  provide                                                            
medical  care has been  driven by  court decisions.  He inquired  if                                                            
there is any sort  of "chart" which reflects the long-term  scenario                                                            
associated with illnesses  from which the Department could determine                                                            
a  course of  medical  treatment  based  on an  inmate's  length  of                                                            
incarceration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peeples  responded  that he  was  not aware  of  any  long-term                                                            
medical synopsis,  and that historical medical management  indicates                                                            
that  providing   treatment  for  long-term  inmates   is  the  best                                                            
approach. He  stated there is no one  answer to the cost  increases,                                                            
however  the Department  is looking  at various  solutions such  as:                                                            
creative financing  or providing alternative funds  to cover some of                                                            
the   medical  expenses;   medical   parole  activities;   and   the                                                            
refinancing of some health care cases.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley voiced  that from the public policy perspective, and                                                            
in consideration  of the public's perception that  inmates are being                                                            
provided  more medical  options than  the public  could afford,  the                                                            
Department  "needs  to strike  a balance"  between  following  court                                                            
ordered  criteria and  keeping  medical coverage  within  acceptable                                                            
levels. He asked  if a policy or procedure chart could  be developed                                                            
that would  reflect how  the Department arrives  at the appropriate                                                             
course of action regarding medical coverage.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peeples stated  the  Department  would provide  a  copy of  the                                                            
current health plan to the subcommittee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked if  the correctional  facilities use  generic                                                            
brands of pharmaceuticals.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples  responded that generic  brands are primarily  used, and                                                            
explained  that Alaska "participates  in  a multi-state consortium"                                                             
which purchases drugs at a very good price.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3(c)                                                                                                               
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Parole Board                                                                                                               
     Shortfunding in operations due to increased prisoner hearings                                                              
     and Parole Board activity                                                                                                  
     $100,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  JONES,  Executive  Director,   Parole  Board,  Department  of                                                            
Corrections,  explained this  request is the  result of a  technical                                                            
change  in  the  budgetary   process  in  FY  02.  He   stated  that                                                            
historically the  Parole Board was funded using a  DOC BRU; however,                                                            
"a new plateau"  of expenses has been reached as the  result of such                                                            
things as increased  hearings due to recently enacted  victim impact                                                            
laws. He continued that  the Parole Board is supportive of these new                                                            
regulations;  however, having victims  and the accused face  to face                                                            
at parole hearings  tends to lengthen the proceedings,  resulting in                                                            
fewer  hearings per  day.  He reiterated  that the  new regulations                                                             
affect the Parole Board in a "very positive" way.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones reported  that the Parole  Board has also become  involved                                                            
in addressing  the Department of Corrections' medical  costs through                                                            
a new "special  medical parole" program.  He detailed the  stringent                                                            
eligibility requirements  for this type of parole and explained that                                                            
the medical  expenses of individuals  on medical parole are  covered                                                            
by a  different funding  mechanism  than through  the Department  of                                                            
Corrections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  asked if  the eligibility  requirements  for  this                                                            
medical parole could be better "crafted."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Jones responded  that  discussion is  underway  to present  new                                                            
language to the Legislature.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Donley  stated   that   in  recent   "no-frills   prison"                                                            
legislation,  criteria  was  actually  "liberalized"  to  allow  for                                                            
increased  usage of the medical  parole program.  He stated  that if                                                            
the program needs  further flexibility, legislation  to address that                                                            
could be "entertained."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones agreed that more flexibility would be needed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones assured  the Committee that  the five-member Parole  Board                                                            
has strived  to save money even in  light of increased workloads  by                                                            
implementing  such  measures   as  changing  the  logistics  of  the                                                            
hearings. He  continued that travel  expenses are high as  this is a                                                            
"traveling board."  He noted that the Parole Board  has received the                                                            
same compensation  level since  1984, and "this  is all but  a full-                                                            
time job."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley clarified that the Board is paid a per diem.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones  stated that  in addition to  compensation, Board  Members                                                            
are paid $75 for  a half day and $100 for a full day  of business as                                                            
established in 1984.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  inquired if the number  of Board members  should be                                                            
increased or if subcommittees could be introduced.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones responded  that other states have tried  subcommittees and                                                            
have gone back  to a single Parole Board. He noted  that the current                                                            
five-member  Parole Board  compliments the  size of Alaska's  prison                                                            
population,  and would  be sufficient  until  the prison  population                                                            
becomes "substantially  greater." He continued that  the Board holds                                                            
its  decision-making  to a  high  standard  where public  safety  is                                                            
concerned. He  stated the Board recognizes that some  individuals do                                                            
not  receive an  adequate  sentence to  benefit from  Department  of                                                            
Corrections'  treatment  programs,  and  if  those  individuals  are                                                            
released  on parole,  "they  can be  ordered,  as part  of a  parole                                                            
condition,  to  participate,  on  their  own dollar,  in  a  private                                                            
treatment program."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked  about the  contractual  amount  of  $60,000                                                            
purchases.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones  stated the funding  would primarily  cover travel  costs,                                                            
shipping  of  files,   telephonic  costs  of  hearings,   and  other                                                            
operational costs of the Board.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  commented he has  received favorable reports  about                                                            
the operations of the Parole  Board, and voiced appreciation for the                                                            
"good job"  they are doing. He cited  that any negative comments  he                                                            
receives are  not with the Parole  Board but with the fact  that the                                                            
Parole Board is required  to review certain cases after a relatively                                                            
short time of incarceration.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jones voiced  appreciation for the support the  Parole Board has                                                            
received from the Legislature.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3(d)                                                                                                               
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     CIP                                                                                                                        
     Offender Tracking Information System Development                                                                           
     $762,000 federal funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples  explained that  this federally  funded capital  project                                                            
request  would  allow   for  completion  of  an  automated   medical                                                            
information system being co-developing with State of Utah.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19                                                                                                                 
     Miscellaneous Claims                                                                                                       
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Miscellaneous Claims: $3,204.11                                                                                            
     $3,200 general funds                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peeples noted this  request would provide funds to pay for "old"                                                            
medical and shipping invoices.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5(a)(1)                                                                                                            
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     Pupil Transportation                                                                                                       
     Cost for new bus routes approved in current year                                                                           
     $541,600 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KAREN REHFELD,  Director,  Division of Education  Support  Services,                                                            
Department of  Education and Early Development, explained  that this                                                            
item is a request for funds to cover pupil transportation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  noted  that the current  funding  appropriation is  not                                                            
sufficient to cover these costs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS,  Manager,   School  Finance  and  Facilities   Section,                                                            
Division of Education Support  Services, Department of Education and                                                            
Early Development,  explained to the Committee that  prior to FY 02,                                                            
the Department  of Education and Early  Development projected  pupil                                                            
transportation  costs; however, beginning  in FY 02, the  Department                                                            
receives the  cost projections directly  from the school  districts.                                                            
He continued that during  this transition, some school districts did                                                            
not include projections  for new routes. He stated that when the new                                                            
school  year began,  the new  routes had  to be factored  in at  the                                                            
local level, resulting in this supplemental request.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  commented that last  year, transportation  costs were                                                            
increased "quite  a bit," and he inquired  as to what other  factors                                                            
in addition to  fuel costs and negotiated contracts  have caused the                                                            
increase in new routes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans replied that  the increase last year was the result of new                                                            
contracts that were negotiated  for the Anchorage, Fairbanks, Kodiak                                                            
and Mat-Su  areas. He stated that  this year's increases  are due to                                                            
an increase  in routes and exampled  that Fairbanks had an  increase                                                            
in traditional programs  and special education summer school routes.                                                            
He  continued  that North  Slope  Borough  students had  been  using                                                            
public transportation  buses, however, those students  are now using                                                            
school buses.  He continued that in  another area, a new  school was                                                            
built, and the  school district had to reassign routes  to transport                                                            
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Jeans  informed   the  Committee  that  the  state   reimburses                                                            
hazardous routes,  even if within  a mile and a half of the  school,                                                            
at 100 percent, and that  regular routes within a mile and a half of                                                            
a school are reimbursed at 50 percent.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  inquired if  the state has  always reimbursed  school                                                            
districts for summer school transportation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Jeans responded  that  state reimbursement  for  summer  school                                                            
transportation  is restricted to special  education transportation.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Hoffman  asked   why  there  has   been  a  reduction   of                                                            
transportation costs in some areas.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Jeans responded  that  in some  areas parents  transport  their                                                            
children  and in other areas,  such as Juneau,  the school  district                                                            
contracts the bus transportation  out and incurs less administrative                                                            
costs. He noted  that administrative costs are reimbursed  under the                                                            
Department  of  Education   and  Early  Development  transportation                                                             
program.  He continued  that as  districts request  new routes,  the                                                            
Department  of Education and Early  Development asks them  to rework                                                            
existing routes to ensure efficiency.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green cited the  back-up information as stating that without                                                            
this  additional  funding, the  Department  of Education  and  Early                                                            
Development  would have to  prorate school  district payments  in FY                                                            
02. She asked  if this would be a  statewide pro-ration whereby  all                                                            
school districts would be penalized for those with overages.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans  responded that  is correct; that  all districts  would be                                                            
uniformly pro rated.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   asked  for  confirmation  that  current   statute                                                            
requires  the reimbursable  percentage for  transportation  expensed                                                            
for districts  to be a minimum of 90 percent, and  that non-district                                                            
reimbursement is a minimum of 100 percent.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans stated that is correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5(a)(2)                                                                                                            
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     Schools for the Handicapped                                                                                                
     Education costs for children in state custody who require out-                                                             
     of-state placement                                                                                                         
     $165,500                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld explained  that this request is for children  who are in                                                            
state custody  under Family In Need services, but  "because of their                                                            
severely  emotionally  disturbed   condition,"  these  children  are                                                            
housed in out  of state residential  treatment programs.  She stated                                                            
that  "most  of  these  children  are Medicaid   eligible;  however,                                                            
Medicaid does  not provide coverage  for educational costs  of their                                                            
treatment  program. She reported  this request  would pay for  those                                                            
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Co-Chair  Donley inquired  if these  costs are  included as  regular                                                            
budget items.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld responded that  within the FY 02 operating budget, there                                                            
is $500,000  to  cover these  programs  based on  historical  needs;                                                            
however,  based on  current  numbers of  children  in this  program,                                                            
projections  are  that  the  budget will  be  short  this  requested                                                            
amount.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if this the result of increased  costs of the                                                            
program or an increase in the number of children in the program.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld responded  that the length of treatment  is the "driver"                                                            
of this  need, as  the children  are staying in  the program  longer                                                            
therefore the educational costs are increasing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked if this money is paid to other states.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  responded  that the  Department's  money  is  actually                                                            
allocated  to the Department  of Health and  Social Services,  which                                                            
pays the costs of these various out-of-state treatment programs.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  clarified that other  states are ultimately  paid for                                                            
these services.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld concurred.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green stated there is recent legislation that addresses                                                                 
bringing these children back to the state for treatment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5(b)                                                                                                               
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     Foundation                                                                                                                 
     Use balance in foundation program resulting from the October                                                               
     student count to fund supplemental needs.                                                                                  
     ($1,975,900) general funds                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  stated  this decrement  projection   is based  on  the                                                            
October  2001  statewide  student  count  and this  amount  will  be                                                            
available in the current year appropriation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5(c)                                                                                                               
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     CIP                                                                                                                        
     Federal School Renovation, Individuals with Disabilities                                                                   
     Education Act (IDEA) and Technology grants for local school                                                                
     districts                                                                                                                  
     $5,400,000 federal funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  commented  this  is  a capital  supplemental   request                                                            
through  which  a one-time  federal  grant  appropriation  would  be                                                            
available  to the Department  of Education  for construction  of new                                                            
schools and major  maintenance projects for schools  meeting certain                                                            
criteria.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  asked if  there  is a  list of  qualifying  school                                                            
projects in the back-up material.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans  replied that  a list  is currently  not available  as the                                                            
Department  is  still   working  with  the  federal  government   to                                                            
determine which  projects meet the  eligibility criteria.  He stated                                                            
that the Department  is working from  the list of CIP projects  that                                                            
were not funded this prior year.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley stated the  Legislature would  need more  specifics                                                            
before the request could be approved.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans stated  there is federal eligibility criterion  imposed on                                                            
the State regarding this  funding that dictates how the projects are                                                            
selected. He  continued that the list  is being finalized  and would                                                            
be provided  to the Legislature. He  stated that 75 percent  of this                                                            
grant money is available  for school construction with 25 percent to                                                            
be awarded  on a  competitive basis  for technology  activities  and                                                            
renovation necessitated by the Americans with Disabilities Act.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked if  federal education reform measures would be                                                            
implemented in FY 02.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Jeans  responded  the  education  reform  measures  pending  in                                                            
Congress would not be implemented until FY 03.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld clarified  that federal education reform  appropriations                                                            
would be reflected in the Governor's FY 03 operating budget.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5(d)(1)-(2)                                                                                                        
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     Along with a reappropriation of $198,600 from the Department                                                               
     of Law, this will fund the McGraw-Hill assessment contract                                                                 
     increase of $498,900                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld   stated  this  request   pertains  to  the   statewide                                                            
assessment program,  specifically to current efforts  re-focusing on                                                            
high  school qualifying  exit examination  measuring  the  essential                                                            
skills required for students to graduate.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  asked if  funds  specified  for  reappropriation  in                                                            
Section 5(d)(2) could be used for other purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  responded  the $198,600  amount  is  from a  State                                                            
settlement and could be re-directed by the Legislature.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  responded this  allotment was  re-appropriated  to fund                                                            
this request in the Governor's budget proposal.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  asked Senator  Green  to  review the  High  School                                                            
Qualifying Exit  Exam funding in the FY 02 budget  and determine the                                                            
total funding appropriation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld stated  the cost of the contract to administer  the exit                                                            
exam has increased as well  as the cost of revisions, field-testing,                                                            
and printing  needs. She concluded  the total cost of the  exit exam                                                            
in FY 02 would be approximately $4 million.                                                                                     

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